Dan Cohen gave an excellent talk in a panel (Is Google Good for History) at the recent annual meeting of the American Historical Association that brought much attention in the media and in Twitter by people following the conference’s hash tag #AHA2010.
The main focus of Dan’s talk was Google Book Search — He gave a nicely balanced view, noting that it’s been a valuable new source for historians, but also discussing problems with it, especially what he sees as a lack of openness on the part of Google.
The discussion around Dan’s paper brought in many voices and opinions on Google Books — It was especially encouraging to see positive opinions on the usefulness of GBS by historians (about which I’ve blogged) — An opinion that gets little attention and respect on Twitter 😉
So, because I found this discussion so valuable, and because tweets stay in Twitter Search for only 10 days, I’m taking the unusual step of recording all of the tweets retrieved with this search: #aha2010 google, which follows below (The search was done on Jan 14):
- dancohen: Michael Hancher reminded me that #AHA2010 panel on Google was similar to 1 at #MLA08 w/ @amandafrench @lisaspiro: http://bit.ly/5gTk4f [PDF]
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ericrumseytemp: RT @LookBackMaps Great conversa abt @dancohen‘s ++ circula post fr #AHA2010 Is Google Good for History? http://bit.ly/7VrBFS
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RoyKenagy: RT @ericrumseytemp: Is Google Good for History? – @dancohen‘s Talk at #AHA2010 – A Superbly Balanced View of #GBS #Books – http://bit.ly/5xGQIf
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ariddell: RT @dancohen: The Data Liberation Front at Google responds to my critique of Google Books’s lack of openness: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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HistoryOfAll: RT @davidinindy: Historians Throw the Book(s) at Google http://bit.ly/4Zv511 #aha2010
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davidinindy: Historians Throw the Book(s) at Google http://bit.ly/4Zv511 #aha2010
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tebenas: RT @ericrumseytemp: Historians on Google Books: “Indispensable … Enlivening” #AHA2010 #GBS @dancohen – http://bit.ly/58sqif
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mlaconvention: RT @andrewjbtw: At #aha2010 google rep says could make perfect scans + metadata but: “it would take 100 years ‘and we’d all be dead.'” h …
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Airminded: RT @dancohen: Brandon Badger of Google responds to my “Is Google Good for History?” talk: http://bit.ly/8kV5NG #aha2010
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TAC_NISO: RT @ericrumseytemp: Google Books & History: Panel at #AHA2010 – A Shorter Chronicle Summary by @percolatorblog – #GBS – http://bit.ly/8Tj7lI
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andrewjbtw: At #aha2010 google rep says could make perfect scans + metadata but: “it would take 100 years ‘and we’d all be dead.'” http://bit.ly/91cH2O
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LookBackMaps: Great conversation around this much circulated post by @dancohen from #AHA2010 Is Google Good for History? http://bit.ly/7VrBFS
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gordonbelt: One more tweet on this interesting subject: @dancohen prepared remarks on “Is Google Good for History?” http://bit.ly/8rokG3 at #aha2010
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ericrumseytemp: RT @sterflu Congr Hearings on Baseball,BCS: Why not Google Books & History? .. CSPAN Finds the Topic Noteworthy #GBS #AHA2010
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mazarines: A transcript by @dancohen of his Google talk at #AHA2010: http://bit.ly/71omcB . He gets to the heart of the problem in section 4. Well said!
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ericrumseytemp: Google Books & History: Panel at #AHA2010 – A Shorter Chronicle Summary by @percolatorblog – #GBS – http://bit.ly/8Tj7lI
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neilschlager: RT @ericrumseytemp: @dancohen Google‘s Data Liberation Front Responds to My Critique at #AHA2010 of #GBS Lack of Openness http://bit.ly/51ZRBf
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miss_eli: RT @ericrumseytemp Is Google Good for History? – @dancohen‘s Talk at #AHA2010 – A Superbly Balanced View of #GBS #Books – http://bit.ly/5xGQIf
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ericrumseytemp: Metadata Problems: Google Books & Libraries #GBS #AHA2010 – http://bit.ly/7Y0y0z
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KBSagert: RT @ericrumseytemp: Is Google Good for History? – @dancohen‘s Talk at #AHA2010 – A Superbly Balanced View of #GBS #Books – http://bit.ly/5xGQIf
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ericrumseytemp: Google Books & History: Panel at #AHA2010: @dancohen, Duguid, Badger/#GBS (Chronicle: @IHEpublishing) http://bit.ly/8ntWJj
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FairlyUsed: RT @ericrumseytemp: Is Google Good for History? – @dancohen‘s Talk at #AHA2010 – A Superbly Balanced View of #GBS – http://bit.ly/5xGQIf
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ericrumseytemp: @dancohen Google‘s Data Liberation Front Responds to My Critique at #AHA2010 of #GBS Lack of Openness http://bit.ly/51ZRBf
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ericrumseytemp: Is Google Good for History? – @dancohen‘s Talk at #AHA2010 – A Superbly Balanced View of #GBS #Books – http://bit.ly/5xGQIf
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mazarines: Inside Higher Ed’s coverage of “Is Google Good for History” panel at #AHA2010: http://bit.ly/92Grw7 (via @archivesnext @save4use).
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ericrumseytemp: RT @dancohen: Brandon Badger of Google Responds to my “Is Google Good for History?” talk at #AHA2010: http://bit.ly/8kV5NG
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ww2poster: RT @dancohen: Brandon Badger of Google responds to my “Is Google Good for History?” talk: http://bit.ly/8kV5NG #aha2010
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dancohen: Brandon Badger of Google responds to my “Is Google Good for History?” talk: http://bit.ly/8kV5NG #aha2010
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linkedlibrary: RT @ericrumseytemp: Historians on Google Books: “Indispensable … Enlivening” #AHA2010 #GBS @dancohen – http://bit.ly/58sqif
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ericrumseytemp: Historians on Google Books: “Indispensable … Enlivening” #AHA2010 #GBS @dancohen – http://bit.ly/58sqif
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percolatorblog: My report on yesterday’s Google Books session: https://chronicle.com/blogPost/Historians-Throw-the-Books/19562/ #aha2010
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JenHoward: @percolatorblog recaps the “Is Google good for history?” panel at #aha2010: http://bit.ly/7vN477
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clarinette02: RT @sivavaid: “Is Google Good for History?” By @dancohen: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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jryoung: RT @sivavaid: “Is Google Good for History?” By @dancohen: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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ProfessorJTan: RT @DUKEpress: Report on #AHA2010 “Is Google good for history?” panel @theinsider. http://bit.ly/92Grw7 Answer seems to be a qualified yes.
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sivavaid: “Is Google Good for History?” By @dancohen: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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sleonchnm: RT @dancohen: The Data Liberation Front at Google responds to my critique of Google Books’s lack of openness: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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FrostDavis: RT @dancohen: The Data Liberation Front at Google responds to my critique of Google Books’s lack of openness: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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footnotesrising: RT @dancohen: The Data Liberation Front at Google responds to my critique of Google Books’s lack of openness: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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redgen: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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ecoknowgrapher: RT @dancohen: The Data Liberation Front at Google responds to my critique of Google Books’s lack of openness: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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dancohen: The Data Liberation Front at Google responds to my critique of Google Books’s lack of openness: http://bit.ly/51ZRBf #aha2010
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lottebelice: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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dancingdivala: RT @save4use: Inside Higher Ed has a summary of the Google panel yesterday at #AHA2010 http://bit.ly/92Grw7
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middletiff: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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ktcrow: RT @jmcclurken IHE’s coverage of the “Is Google Good for History” panel: http://bit.ly/92Grw7 #aha2010
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jmcclurken: IHE’s coverage of the “Is Google Good for History” panel: http://bit.ly/92Grw7 #aha2010
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iheinsider: Twitter’s ahead of us this morning! For the late risers, coverage of “Is Google Good for History?” #aha2010 http://bit.ly/8kPAeZ #highered
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archivesnext: RT @save4use: Inside Higher Ed has a summary of the Google panel yesterday at #AHA2010 http://bit.ly/92Grw7
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BBremen: RT @save4use: Inside Higher Ed has a summary of the Google panel yesterday at #AHA2010 http://bit.ly/92Grw7
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pingkwa: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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save4use: Inside Higher Ed has a summary of the Google panel yesterday at #AHA2010 http://bit.ly/92Grw7
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wynkenhimself: Coverage of the #AHA2010 panel on Google at Inside Higher Ed: http://bit.ly/8kPAeZ
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mlhalldotcom: RT @dukepress: Report on #AHA2010 “Is Google good for history?” panel @theinsider. http://bit.ly/92Grw7 Answer seems to be a qualified yes.
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Miremara: rt @DUKEpress Report on #AHA2010 “Is Google good for history?” panel @theinsider. http://bit.ly/92Grw7 Answer seems to be a qualified ye
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dukepress: Report on #AHA2010 “Is Google good for history?” panel @theinsider. http://bit.ly/92Grw7 Answer seems to be a qualified yes.
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laworderie: Think > Is Google Good for History ? By @dancohen : http://bit.ly/8qn90g (via @BibliOdyssey) #transcript #AHA2010 #google #books #culture
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fleming77: RT @Airminded: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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Airminded: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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Geotch: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g (via @dancohen)
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Prof_Wandt: RT @mkgold: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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gregoryfoster: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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HeatherLeePitts: RT @janaremy Q: … Why [isn’t Google Books] teaming up w/libraries? Reply: we want to fix algorithms & not indiv bks #aha2010
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DCPEST: RT @parezcoydigo: Now that the Google panel is done, maybe we can all go to dif. panels tomorrow to diversify tweets 😉 #AHA2010
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sfern: RT @sherah1918: Catch up on @dancohen‘s #AHA2010 talk, Is Google Good for History? http://bit.ly/51Z94z , & possibly C-SPAN reruns …
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profsyn: Everyone should read @dancohen‘s #AHA2010 talk, Is Google Good for History? http://bit.ly/8dI9sy [1/2]
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sherah1918: Catch up on @dancohen‘s #AHA2010 talk, Is Google Good for History? http://bit.ly/51Z94z , & possibly C-SPAN reruns for weeks to come.
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kristenkim03: RT @wynkenhimself: Transcript of @dancohen‘s #AHA2010 talk “Is Google Good for History?”–smart, even-handed take: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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wynkenhimself: Transcript of @dancohen‘s #AHA2010 talk “Is Google Good for History?”–smart, even-handed take: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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parezcoydigo: Now that the Google panel is done, maybe we can all go to dif. panels tomorrow to diversify tweets 😉 #AHA2010
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jenhassum: @hmprescott Tnx. Been following the Darnton debate, and I have to say I sympathize with the dream of open access e-books on Google #aha2010
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irvined: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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jtheibault: Great tweets about Cohen and Duguid papers “Is Google Good for History?” #aha2010
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hmprescott: RT @jmcclurken: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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jtheibault: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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footnotesrising: c-span is taping this google session. has anyone heard if they will post it on their web site for later viewing? #aha2010
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jenhassum: RT @jmcclurken RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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krisnelson: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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patrickgmj: Wonder if Duguid is familiar with FRBR’s handling of the bits and pieces that constitute a book. For that matter, if Google is? #aha2010
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jmcclurken: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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janaremy: Google panel sans @dancohen (he’s behind the podium) #aha2010 http://twitpic.com/x4kzk
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janaremy: Looks like @patrickgmj asking abt trust & google products. @dancohen says we should all be skeptical #aha2010
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percolatorblog: Google rep — Brandon, I think — isn’t addressing the criticisms directly. #aha2010
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janaremy: RT @footnotesrising: someone please ask google books rep why they don’t take suggested corrections to metadata from users. #aha2010.
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parezcoydigo: Google guy: “once you’ve digitized a book you can analyze it interesting new ways.” Unless, of course, Google has no api/way to #aha2010
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footnotesrising: someone please ask google books rep why they don’t take suggested corrections to metadata from users. #aha2010.
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patrickgmj: And Brandon from Google responding now… #AHA2010
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samplereality: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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parezcoydigo: RT @patrickgmj: Librarians being called out on being easy on Google. #AHA2010 The actual phrase was supine before Google.
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patrickgmj: Librarians being called out on being easy on Google. #AHA2010
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sleonchnm: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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mkgold: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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janaremy: RT @patrickgmj: Nice, @dancohen bringing up limited openness in google books #AHA2010 hoping for info re APA settlement from google in reply
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parezcoydigo: Number of books in my google books library in Spanish published before1810? More than 300 on law and medicine alone. #aha2010
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patrickgmj: Nice, @dancohen bringing up limited openness in google books #AHA2010 hoping for info re APA settlement from google in response
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CHATemple: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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sabreuse: now reading: http://bit.ly/8qn90g Is Google Good for History by @dancohen – approximately in sync with the actual live talk at #AHA2010
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derekbruff: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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parezcoydigo: Is google good for history? I’ll tell you in a bit… #aha2010
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KevinLevin: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g @cenantua for U.
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SdFunkyChick: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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historying: Transcript of @dancohen‘s #AHA2010 talk: http://bit.ly/8qn90g – “Google Books is only open in the read-a-book-in-my-pajamas way” A+
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jondresner: @dancohen #aha2010 Re: http://bit.ly/8qn90g If Google is dragging feet, isn’t the question “Why?” Without that, can’t lobby them effectively
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aldusM: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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clarinette02: RT @ls01: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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ww2poster: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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ls01: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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ecarr42: RT @archivesnext RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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archivesnext: RT @dancohen Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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briancroxall: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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Chronotope: RT @dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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dancohen: Transcript of my talk “Is Google Good for History?” for those following #AHA2010 online: http://bit.ly/8qn90g
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