9 thoughts on “Google Books Blur the Line between Book & Internet

  1. I do I do mention it, see:

    “There is little talk of this anywhere in the publishing industry that I know of, but the foundation is there for the move — as it should be. And if you are looking at publishing with any kind of long-term business horizon, this is where you should be looking. (Just ask Google, a company that has been laying the groundwork for this shift with Google Books).”

  2. one curiosity of the e-book scene is that
    it seems to have no collective memory…

    the notion that books should be mounted
    on the internet is _not_ “mcgquire’s thesis”,
    as you put it here, eric. not by a long shot.
    we’ve been researching this matter for years.
    the ideas even predate the google initiative…

    the o.c.a. has mounted books ever since it
    started scanning them, way back (in 2003?).

    the issue, as you see brewster stated it here,
    > http://www.futureofthebook.org/blog/archives/2006/12/microsoft_launches_live_search.html
    is “some experimentation on how book material
    should appear online”. as you will also see there,
    i pointed to a number of books that i’d mounted.

    the website they were on has gone down, but
    i moved them to another website that i control:
    > http://z-m-l.com/go/tolbk/tolbkp023.html
    > http://z-m-l.com/go/mabie/mabiep123.html
    > http://z-m-l.com/go/myant/myantp123.html
    > http://z-m-l.com/go/sgfhb/sgfhbp123.html
    > http://z-m-l.com/go/ahmmw/ahmmwp023.html

    so if you want to move discussion past the “gee whiz”
    stage, i have plenty of thoughts i can share with you…

    or, if you prefer to wait until 2012, when this topic is
    brought up once again, as if it were _brand_new_, then
    we can wait and do it then…

    -bowerbird

  3. bowerbird, Your markup pages look interesting — Any chance ZML will ever be widely implemented?

    The real gee whiz part of this thing is searchability — If you can find a place to start putting ZML pages where they’re searchable by Google-Bing-Yahoo … Hmmm…

    Thanks for the comment.

  4. eric-

    > Any chance ZML will ever be widely implemented?

    it’s how everything will be done, in 20 years or so.
    how it comes about is not of much concern to me…

    i’ll soon present proof-of-concept with working code
    across the entire workflow… after that, it’s an i.q. test
    on if/when the world is smart enough to implement it.

    (when i say “it”, i mean lightweight markup. the most
    prevalent form at the present is “markdown”, which has
    achieved fairly good penetration. markdown isn’t really
    “light” enough for my taste, but it gets the idea across,
    the idea being that machines should apply the markup,
    not people; we just have to leave enough clues for them.)

    > If you can find a place to start putting ZML pages
    > where they’re searchable by Google-Bing-Yahoo

    all books need to be put onto a single cyberlibrary site.
    tens of millions of books, on this one site, for everyone.
    so search engines can/should/must catalog them there.

    but i disagree that search is the reason for the cyberlibrary.
    search is simple, there’s nothing to it, it’s not difficult to do.

    what _is_ hard is to get the books to “talk to each other”,
    to use the phrase coined by kevin kelly. once we develop
    a technology that finds the “connections” between books
    – between disparate pieces of knowledge in general –
    our wisdom will take a quantum leapfrog into the future.
    _this_ is the reason to put all our books on the open web.

    of course, there’ll be great value in the cyberlibrary per se
    – every book at the immediate disposal of every person,
    what a boon for worldwide education that will prove to be! –
    but it is the “hive” level which will provide the huge payoff.

    -bowerbird

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